AppletTalk.com Java discussions newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Questions about using Java 3D          AppletTalk.com Forum Index -> 3D Graphics API's for Java View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message den Guest Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 9:54 pm    Post subject: Questions about using Java 3D Hi everyone (newbie here), I'd like to develop my skills to become a professional java developer. I was wondering about your opinion regarding the Java 3d API. Is it popular? Quote: From my google searches it looks like Java3d is most popular in the mobile device realm. Everywhere else it appears quiet. So for instance I wanted to build a 3d applet for my website (to build my portfolio). Do you think this is wise? Or are there better alternatives? Thanks for any advise, Dennis. Back to top sanbikinoraion Guest Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 3:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Questions about using Java 3D Quote: I was wondering about your opinion regarding the Java 3d API. Is it popular? The short answer is no, not really. Quote: From my google searches it looks like Java3d is most popular in themobile device realm. Everywhere else it appears quiet. So for instance I wanted to build a 3d applet for my website (to build my portfolio). Do you think this is wise? Or are there better alternatives? I don't think that your two questions provide mutually exclusive answers. If you're building a 3d app for your website, java3d is almost certainly a very good choice, particularly for a lone developer - it's pretty easy to get into, and it does the simple stuff well. As to whether there are better alternatives, there probably are alternatives that are better in some ways than java3d, though I don't know of any. -sanbikinoraion Back to top Matthias Guest Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 12:37 am    Post subject: Re: Questions about using Java 3D On 25 Jan 2007 01:16:21 -0800, "sanbikinoraion" <kendrick.curtis (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Quote: I don't think that your two questions provide mutually exclusive answers. If you're building a 3d app for your website, java3d is almost certainly a very good choice, particularly for a lone developer - it's pretty easy to get into, and it does the simple stuff well. I thought Java3d is an additional install apart from the JVM? doesn't that mean that probably most (regular) users won't be able to see applets with java 3d content? greetings matthias Back to top den Guest Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:16 am    Post subject: Re: Questions about using Java 3D On Jan 25, 1:37 pm, Matthias <myli...@REM0VEgmx.ch> wrote: Quote: On 25 Jan 2007 01:16:21 -0800, "sanbikinoraion" kendrick.cur...@gmail.com> wrote: I don't think that your two questions provide mutually exclusive answers. If you're building a 3d app for your website, java3d is almost certainly a very good choice, particularly for a lone developer - it's pretty easy to get into, and it does the simple stuff well.I thought Java3d is an additional install apart from the JVM? doesn't that mean that probably most (regular) users won't be able to see applets with java 3d content? greetings matthias Thanks for the responses. Here are some further questions that touches on Mattias' questions. The installation of JDK 1.6 contains a demos. If you look under applets you'll find a Molecule Viewer applet. This applet is 3D yet the source doesn't include the Java3D API? So it seems I can see applets with 3d content. So based on this applet .... what is the point for the Java3D API? Am I confusing something? Another thing is that the Java3D tutorial is terribly old. So the reason I asked was whether learning it was worth it if it was going to be deprecated in the forseeable future, etc. Thanks again. Dennis. Back to top sanbikinoraion Guest Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 3:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Questions about using Java 3D Quote: I thought Java3d is an additional install apart from the JVM? doesn't that mean that probably most (regular) users won't be able to see applets with java 3d content? Matthias, you are completely correct. Apologies. -sanbikinoraion Back to top Benoît-Nicole Morrissette Guest Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Questions about using Java 3D On 25 Jan 2007 17:16:12 -0800, "den" <dchang.04 (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Quote: snip... The installation of JDK 1.6 contains a demos. If you look under applets you'll find a Molecule Viewer applet. This applet is 3D yet the source doesn't include the Java3D API? Take a look at the Wireframe demo too. Many of these demos were include in the JDK 1.1 around 1997. Looking at the source code of Java3D, https://j3d-core.dev.java.net/, i guess that they had so much fun writing those demos that they decided to create Java3D out of them. Quote: So it seems I can see applets with 3d content. So based on this applet ... what is the point for the Java3D API? Am I confusing something? All 3D API's are based on 2D drawing no matter wich langage you use ( OpenGL, DirectX, C++, etc...). By the way, Java3D is written in Java, of course. The point of any API is that you don't have to reinvent the wheel every time you start a new project! Quote: Another thing is that the Java3D tutorial is terribly old. So the reason I asked was whether learning it was worth it if it was going to be deprecated in the forseeable future, etc. I do not think so!!!! Thanks again. Dennis. Bye, Benoît-Nicole... Back to top den Guest Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 3:49 am    Post subject: Re: Questions about using Java 3D On Jan 26, 8:45 am, Benoît-Nicole Morrissette <benoitmorrissett...@SPAMhotmail.com> wrote: Quote: On 25 Jan 2007 17:16:12 -0800, "den" <dchang...@gmail.com> wrote: snip... The installation of JDK 1.6 contains a demos. If you look under applets you'll find a Molecule Viewer applet. This applet is 3D yet the source doesn't include the Java3D API?Take a look at the Wireframe demo too. Many of these demos were include in the JDK 1.1 around 1997. Looking at the source code of Java3D,https://j3d-core.dev.java.net/, i guess that they had so much fun writing those demos that they decided to create Java3D out of them. So it seems I can see applets with 3d content. So based on this applet ... what is the point for the Java3D API? Am I confusing something?All 3D API's are based on 2D drawing no matter wich langage you use ( OpenGL, DirectX, C++, etc...). By the way, Java3D is written in Java, of course. The point of any API is that you don't have to reinvent the wheel every time you start a new project! Another thing is that the Java3D tutorial is terribly old. So the reason I asked was whether learning it was worth it if it was going to be deprecated in the forseeable future, etc.I do not think so!!!! Thanks again. Dennis.Bye, Benoît-Nicole... Thanks everybody for all your responses. I think I'll have to roll my own if I want it installed in an applet. 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