AppletTalk.com Java discussions newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Platform/OS used to develop Java? Goto page 1, 2  Next          AppletTalk.com Forum Index -> Java Help View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Andrew Thompson Guest Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 12:52 am    Post subject: Platform/OS used to develop Java? I have developed the on-line compiler futher, it now delivers .zip files containing the source, class files and a few HTML docs etcetera. The files I am writing are largely Windows oriented (the dev files are ..bat files for instance) and the HTML is 'optimised' for IE 6. This leads me to the question.. Is there anybody here seeking answers that are using an OS _other_ than Windows? What about browsers - IE? BTW, you can see an example of the file (15Kb) here.. <http://www.physci.org/public_compile/a_I7EX5w_pYfJAnimateFrame/JAnimateFrame.zip> -- Andrew Thompson * http://www.PhySci.org/ Open-source software suite * http://www.PhySci.org/codes/ Web & IT Help * http://www.1point1C.org/ Science & Technology Back to top Christophe Vanfleteren Guest Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 1:06 am    Post subject: Re: Platform/OS used to develop Java? Andrew Thompson wrote: Quote: I have developed the on-line compiler futher, it now delivers .zip files containing the source, class files and a few HTML docs etcetera. The files I am writing are largely Windows oriented (the dev files are .bat files for instance) and the HTML is 'optimised' for IE 6. This leads me to the question.. Is there anybody here seeking answers that are using an OS _other_ than Windows? What about browsers - IE? BTW, you can see an example of the file (15Kb) here.. http://www.physci.org/public_compile/a_I7EX5w_pYfJAnimateFrame/JAnimateFrame.zip Konqueror on KDE here, but I haven't exactly had the need to try the online compiler yet :) As for the 'optimised for IE6' html, it seems that your pages validate alright, so it shouldn't really be a problem, should it? -- Kind regards, Christophe Vanfleteren Back to top Andrew Thompson Guest Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 2:19 am    Post subject: Re: Platform/OS used to develop Java? On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 01:06:31 GMT, Christophe Vanfleteren wrote: Quote: Andrew Thompson wrote: I have developed the on-line compiler futher, ...the HTML is 'optimised' for IE 6. .... http://www.physci.org/public_compile/a_I7EX5w_pYfJAnimateFrame/JAnimateFrame.zip .... Konqueror on KDE here, but I haven't exactly had the need to try the online compiler yet :) As for the 'optimised for IE6' html, it seems that your pages validate alright, so it shouldn't really be a problem, should it? The HTML I am using is frames based, it uses the target attribute of the <a> tag to send 'documents' to the main content window. The 'documents' I am showing are actually the file system, directories within the project. IE shows these as directories, the way Windows iteslf would, but Gecko based browsers (in my case Mozilla) display the same directories as file listings in the way a server with directory listing enabled might display it. In IE you can 'double click' a .bat file to run it, but Gecko based browsers simply display the .bat file in the browser's 'content' frame. So I am wonderring if I can get away with this (sloppy) way of doing things, that is, advise 'This works best with IE'. ( Could you here my teeth grinding as I wrote that? ) -- Andrew Thompson * http://www.PhySci.org/ Open-source software suite * http://www.PhySci.org/codes/ Web & IT Help * http://www.1point1C.org/ Science & Technology Back to top Andrew Thompson Guest Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 3:03 am    Post subject: Re: Platform/OS used to develop Java? On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 01:06:31 GMT, Christophe Vanfleteren wrote: Quote: Andrew Thompson wrote: ... Konqueror on KDE here, but I haven't exactly had the need to try the online compiler yet Well, _next_ time your a noob learning Java.. ;-) Quote: As for the 'optimised for IE6' html, it seems that your pages validate alright, so it shouldn't really be a problem, should it? Aaah.. interesting comment. I had not known of the validator when I was writing such pages as.. <http://www.physci.org/1/default.html> I had not used framesets since I had been writing new (valid) pages recently. When I threw my (frameset) attempts at the validator it revealed ..a few problems. Most of them are now fixed, but one that I have decided to ignore is that border='0' -> border not an attribute.. (shrugs) I have not encountered a browser that does not understand that and render it as I want, so I am not especially fussed. -- Andrew Thompson * http://www.PhySci.org/ Open-source software suite * http://www.PhySci.org/codes/ Web & IT Help * http://www.1point1C.org/ Science & Technology Back to top Andrew Thompson Guest Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 4:43 am    Post subject: Re: Platform/OS used to develop Java? On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 23:34:41 -0500, Mark Haase wrote: Quote: In article <yjrccm1qksjv.14iknp4odtdl8$.dlg (AT) 40tude (DOT) net>, Andrew Thompson <SeeMySites (AT) www (DOT) invalid> wrote: This leads me to the question.. Is there anybody here seeking answers that are using an OS _other_ than Windows? I use OS X. What about browsers - IE? Never. I use Safari 99.5% of the time. Netscape the rest. ...hmmm. Your answers on other occasions (and in other groups) suggest that you are beyond the stage of 'how do I set the classpath?' type questions. Would that assessment be correct Mark?* [ * Other than the code and classes, most of what my files enable is compiling, running, jarring ang javadocing from the command line. I am guessing that you are beyond needing that sort of help. ] -- Andrew Thompson * http://www.PhySci.org/ Open-source software suite * http://www.PhySci.org/codes/ Web & IT Help * http://www.1point1C.org/ Science & Technology Back to top Andrew Thompson Guest Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 12:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Platform/OS used to develop Java? I am asking for the help of the people who need help from this group. (please read on) On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 04:26:40 -0500, Mark Haase wrote: Quote: In article <10zeqhpaxz9v4.18gblgjs7vm5d$.dlg (AT) 40tude (DOT) net>, Andrew Thompson <SeeMySites (AT) www (DOT) invalid> wrote: ..I am guessing that you are beyond needing that sort of help. ] Oops. I didn't realize you were trying to figure out what *newbies* are using to develop/test. (chuckles) I must work on my communications skills. Thus far, the only two people to respond were ..anything but people at the first stages of Java. Quote: I think Win/IE is pretty fair to assume. Thanks. I'd like to actually hear some of _them_ say so as well. So, come on folks, this is going to become a very Windows oriented 'starter kit' for little code projects, unless anybody chimes in with an OS/Browser combination that I had not counted on. Can you help me out here? What browser/OS do you use, is it Win/IE as we suspect? -- Andrew Thompson * http://www.PhySci.org/ Open-source software suite * http://www.PhySci.org/codes/ Web & IT Help * http://www.1point1C.org/ Science & Technology Back to top Gregory A. Swarthout Guest Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 5:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Platform/OS used to develop Java? Andrew Thompson <SeeMySites (AT) www (DOT) invalid> wrote Quote: I have developed the on-line compiler futher, it now delivers .zip files containing the source, class files and a few HTML docs etcetera. Why not include all of the extras in the JAR file so that it is still executable? Quote: The files I am writing are largely Windows oriented (the dev files are .bat files for instance) and the HTML is 'optimised' for IE 6. This leads me to the question.. Is there anybody here seeking answers that are using an OS _other_ than Windows? I use both Windows and Linux, but I rarely ask elementary questions. Quote: What about browsers - IE? I use Mozilla v1.6 on both Linux and Windows (as should everybody), but will move to Firebird when it is complete. IE 6 is quite outdated by now. Greg Back to top Andrew Thompson Guest Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 9:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Platform/OS used to develop Java? On 3 Mar 2004 09:26:11 -0800, Gregory A. Swarthout wrote: Quote: Andrew Thompson <SeeMySites (AT) www (DOT) invalid> wrote I have developed the on-line compiler futher, it now delivers .zip files containing the source, class files and a few HTML docs etcetera. Why not include all of the extras in the JAR file so that it is still executable? Do you mean the .jar file the user produces? If OTOH, you are refering to the jars that my server was making, I withdrew those. I was apparently doing something wrong. When the JRE tried to open them it would report that they were corrupt. It's safer for the moment delivering the Zip files, which seem fine. -- Andrew Thompson * http://www.PhySci.org/ Open-source software suite * http://www.PhySci.org/codes/ Web & IT Help * http://www.1point1C.org/ Science & Technology Back to top David Heath Guest Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 4:48 am    Post subject: Re: Platform/OS used to develop Java? I am in the very early stages of learning java. I have a couple of computers that I'm using. I use Netscape on both and both are win OS. One is running Win98se, the other Win2K. David Andrew Thompson wrote: Quote: I am asking for the help of the people who need help from this group. Back to top Andrew Thompson Guest Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 9:39 am    Post subject: Re: Platform/OS used to develop Java? On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 04:48:35 GMT, David Heath wrote: Quote: I am in the very early stages of learning java. I have a couple of computers that I'm using. I use Netscape on both and both are win OS. One is running Win98se, the other Win2K. Thanks David. :-) What version/s of Netscape are you running? Would it be the older 4.x Netscape or the more modern NN 6 which is based around the Gecko/Mozilla engine? (..some other v. again?) Back to top David Heath Guest Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 1:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Platform/OS used to develop Java? Hi Andrew, I am using Netscape 7.1 on both computers. It is based on the Mozilla engine. I do still have Netscape Commander 4.1 if you need someone to look at the pages and let you know how they look. Off topic. Andrew, what do you think of Jbulider as a development tool for a java novice? David Andrew Thompson wrote: Quote: What version/s of Netscape are you running? Would it be the older 4.x Netscape or the more modern NN 6 which is based around the Gecko/Mozilla engine? (..some other v. again?) Back to top Andrew Thompson Guest Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 3:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Platform/OS used to develop Java? On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 13:02:15 GMT, David Heath wrote: Quote: Hi Andrew, I am using Netscape 7.1 on both computers. It is based on the Mozilla engine. Yep. So I expect it would act like Moz and open the directories as 'file lists' Quote: ..I do still have Netscape Commander 4.1 if you need someone to look at the pages and let you know how they look. It's cool, if I can get it to work at all on NN 4.78 I'll be happy (I have that installed) Quote: Off topic. Andrew, what do you think of Jbulider as a development tool for a java novice? I promote that starters use the command line until they understand classpaths, invoking a class and jar with arguments and such. ...There are a lot of different views on that though, some of the recommendations I have heard recently are jEdit and jCreator(?) while Eclipse is well favoured, and Netbeans for those that like to 'drag-n-drop' things (though U think there is a GUI designer plug-in for eclipse). Of those, I have used Eclipse (which is pretty slick) but am currently using none*, at the moment I use a simple editor that gives context highlighting (keywords and such) and compiling/launching with keyborad shortcuts.. Textpad. * My Eclipse is broke and my few and half-hearted attemps to fix it failed. [ The complexity of the more advanced IDE's is one of their faults, AFAIAC ] Use a variety of IDE's and environments and end up using what you are most comfortable with and have available at that moment. The options are wide open. :-) -- Andrew Thompson * http://www.PhySci.org/ Open-source software suite * http://www.PhySci.org/codes/ Web & IT Help * http://www.1point1C.org/ Science & Technology Back to top David Heath Guest Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 3:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Platform/OS used to develop Java? Thanks for the advice. I will put it to good use :) David Andrew Thompson wrote: Quote: Use a variety of IDE's and environments and end up using what you are most comfortable with and have available at that moment. Back to top Luc Van Bogaert Guest Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 11:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Platform/OS used to develop Java? Andrew Thompson wrote: Quote: Is there anybody here seeking answers that are using an OS _other_ than Windows? Using eComStation (OS/2) and Mozilla here. -- Luc Van Bogaert Back to top Andrew Thompson Guest Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 11:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Platform/OS used to develop Java? On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 00:10:19 +0100, Luc Van Bogaert wrote: Quote: Andrew Thompson wrote: Is there anybody here seeking answers that are using an OS _other_ than Windows? Using eComStation (OS/2) and Mozilla here. OS/2.. that's an IBM Unix variant? I conclude I _will_ need to add some instructions for 'users of browsers that are not IE'. It seems like there are a few of you about. -- Andrew Thompson * http://www.PhySci.org/ Open-source software suite * http://www.PhySci.org/codes/ Web & IT Help * http://www.1point1C.org/ Science & Technology Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         AppletTalk.com Forum Index -> Java Help All times are GMT Goto page 1, 2  Next Page 1 of 2   Jump to: Select a forum Java Newsgroups----------------Java DiscussionsWeb-based java games comp.lang.java 3D Graphics API's for Java Java: Support and criticism Java System Announcements comp.lang.java.api JavaBeans Java and CORBA Java and Databases comp.lang.java.developer Java GUI Toolkits Java Help comp.lang.java.javascript JVM, native methods and hardware comp.lang.java.misc Java Language Programming Security and Java comp.lang.java.setup Java Software Tools comp.lang.java.tech ibm.software.java.linux  Non-English Java Newsgroups----------------Java Language (German)Language Java (Français)Java (Italian)  You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2006 phpBB Group SEO toolkit © 2004-2006 webmedic.