AppletTalk.com Java discussions newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Online Compiler questions (http://javaboutique.internet.com/ Goto page 1, 2  Next          AppletTalk.com Forum Index -> Java Help View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message trend5 Guest Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 2:17 pm    Post subject: Online Compiler questions (http://javaboutique.internet.com/ if compare standard Java Compiler from Sun, installed on harddrive and Online compiler service - http://javaboutique.internet.com/compiler.html: Could this online compiler create clear, correct .class files? What mean Compile Options: -g, -O, -depend, -nowarn, -verbose, -deprecation Which Compile Options I need set to create Java Applets? Display file, Image file -what this options intended for? Back to top Roedy Green Guest Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 5:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Online Compiler questions (http://javaboutique.internet. On 23 Jul 2004 07:17:25 -0700, [email]korund (AT) hotmail (DOT) com[/email] (trend5) wrote or quoted : Quote: if compare standard Java Compiler from Sun, installed on harddrive and Online compiler service - http://javaboutique.internet.com/compiler.html: Could this online compiler create clear, correct .class files? What mean Compile Options: -g, -O, -depend, -nowarn, -verbose, -deprecation Which Compile Options I need set to create Java Applets? Display file, Image file -what this options intended for? the url is http://javaboutique.internet.com/compiler.html Be careful about appending punctuation that confuse the browsers. I think they are just feeding your files to one of two of Sun's or IBM's compilers. Nearly always it would be better to download the JDK or Jikes and compile it yourself. See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jdk.html http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jikes.html The service would let you create java on a machine that had no Java compiler, that was too small to support one, or at Microsoft where the boss may not allow you to install Java. -- Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green. Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming. See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary. Back to top Andrew Thompson Guest Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 1:28 am    Post subject: Re: Online Compiler questions (http://javaboutique.internet. On 23 Jul 2004 07:17:25 -0700, trend5 wrote: Quote: if compare standard Java Compiler from Sun, installed on harddrive and Online compiler service - http://javaboutique.internet.com/compiler.html: If you need an on-line compiler, try the original (and best).. <http://www.physci.org/javac.jsp> I find it amazing they offer *only* 1.0.2 and 1.1.4 (both obsolete) whereas mine offers 1.1.4 for those forced to work woth MS, as well as 1.1.8, 1.2.2, 1.3.1, and 1.4.2. Of course, the on-line compiler is intended more to test code for 'self contained' and provide versioniing services. Roedy made a good point about downloading your *own* version of the current Sun compiler, which makes much more sense. -- Andrew Thompson http://www.PhySci.org/ Open-source software suite http://www.PhySci.org/codes/ Web & IT Help http://www.1point1C.org/ Science & Technology Back to top trend5 Guest Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 6:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Online Compiler questions (http://javaboutique.internet. From from Sun's Java Development Kit versions is smaller? I need small tool for applet creation purpose only. --------------------------- thanks Back to top trend5 Guest Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 7:38 pm    Post subject: Re: still one Online Compiler +what compilation options? I find still one online java compiler: http://www.innovation.ch/java/java_compile.html I was wondering if someone could explain what's Compilation Options recommends to use compile Java applets?(works on all browsers) Thanks, trend5 --------------------------------------------------- Andrew Thompson <SeeMySites (AT) www (DOT) invalid> wrote Quote: On 23 Jul 2004 07:17:25 -0700, trend5 wrote: if compare standard Java Compiler from Sun, installed on harddrive and Online compiler service - http://javaboutique.internet.com/compiler.html: If you need an on-line compiler, try the original (and best).. <http://www.physci.org/javac.jsp I find it amazing they offer *only* 1.0.2 and 1.1.4 (both obsolete) whereas mine offers 1.1.4 for those forced to work woth MS, as well as 1.1.8, 1.2.2, 1.3.1, and 1.4.2. Of course, the on-line compiler is intended more to test code for 'self contained' and provide versioniing services. Roedy made a good point about downloading your *own* version of the current Sun compiler, which makes much more sense. Back to top Roedy Green Guest Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 7:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Online Compiler questions (http://javaboutique.internet. On 24 Jul 2004 11:33:19 -0700, [email]korund (AT) hotmail (DOT) com[/email] (trend5) wrote or quoted : Quote: From from Sun's Java Development Kit versions is smaller? I need small tool for applet creation purpose only. There is only one, see http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jdk.html There might be a slightly smaller English-only version. -- Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green. Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming. See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary. Back to top Andrew Thompson Guest Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 4:03 am    Post subject: Re: still one Online Compiler +what compilation options? On 24 Jul 2004 12:38:07 -0700, trend5 wrote: Please do not.. a) change subject lines b) top-post <http://groups.google.com/groups?th=5c68fea1036a059a> Quote: I find still one online java compiler: http://www.innovation.ch/java/java_compile.html As I mentioned in an earlier post to you, there is a much better one.. <http://www.physci.org/javac.jsp> Quote: I was wondering if someone could explain what's Compilation Options recommends to use compile Java applets?(works on all browsers) Wrong, wrong, wrong!!! Do you people not *read* the group, this has been discussed to death several times over the last few days. CODING FOR 1.1 DOES NOT MEAN APPLET WILL WORK ALL BROWSER - IT DOES NOT EVEN MEAN THE APPLET WILL WORK IN ALL *IE*. (sheeesh!) But to answser your question, see here.. <http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/tooldocs/windows/javac.html#crosscomp-options> You need a -target 1.1, with a -bootclasspath pointing to an '1.1' version rt.ja -- Andrew Thompson http://www.PhySci.org/ Open-source software suite http://www.PhySci.org/codes/ Web & IT Help http://www.1point1C.org/ Science & Technology Back to top Tor Iver Wilhelmsen Guest Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 8:39 am    Post subject: Re: Online Compiler questions (http://javaboutique.internet. Roedy Green <look-on (AT) mindprod (DOT) com.invalid> writes: Quote: There might be a slightly smaller English-only version. Not of the JDK: The JDK includes the international JRE. However, for applets, the small-ish JDK 1.1.8 could be what is needed. Back to top trend5 Guest Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 2:59 pm    Post subject: Re: still one Online Compiler +what compilation options? Sorry, I asked my question incorrectly. What I need: I need that Applet stable work on target browsers MSIE 5.0- 6.0 But if possible, on latest Netscape also. No other versions required. Quote: You need a -target 1.1, with a -bootclasspath pointing to an '1.1' version rt.ja Will this options OK for this? By the way, is there some class files online Archiver which can archive CLASS files in .JAR online (similar as online compiler) ====================================== Andrew Thompson <SeeMySites (AT) www (DOT) invalid> wrote Quote: On 24 Jul 2004 12:38:07 -0700, trend5 wrote: Please do not.. a) change subject lines b) top-post http://groups.google.com/groups?th=5c68fea1036a059a I find still one online java compiler: http://www.innovation.ch/java/java_compile.html As I mentioned in an earlier post to you, there is a much better one.. http://www.physci.org/javac.jsp I was wondering if someone could explain what's Compilation Options recommends to use compile Java applets?(works on all browsers) Wrong, wrong, wrong!!! Do you people not *read* the group, this has been discussed to death several times over the last few days. CODING FOR 1.1 DOES NOT MEAN APPLET WILL WORK ALL BROWSER - IT DOES NOT EVEN MEAN THE APPLET WILL WORK IN ALL *IE*. (sheeesh!) But to answser your question, see here.. http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/tooldocs/windows/javac.html#crosscomp-options You need a -target 1.1, with a -bootclasspath pointing to an '1.1' version rt.ja Back to top Andrew Thompson Guest Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 3:12 pm    Post subject: Re: still one Online Compiler +what compilation options? On 25 Jul 2004 07:59:18 -0700, trend5 wrote: I gave the wrong link re top-posting, have a look over this.. <http://www.physci.org/codes/javafaq.jsp#netiquette> Quote: Sorry, I asked my question incorrectly. What I need: I need that Applet stable work on target browsers MSIE 5.0- 6.0 If you compile for MSVM, your applet will not not work on *ALL* IE. IE comes now with NO java. Many IE *had* Java but user removed it. Many IE had Java but *sys admin* removed it. Until you indicate you understand that I cannot advise further. -- Andrew Thompson http://www.PhySci.org/ Open-source software suite http://www.PhySci.org/codes/ Web & IT Help http://www.1point1C.org/ Science & Technology Back to top Roedy Green Guest Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 5:17 pm    Post subject: Re: still one Online Compiler +what compilation options? On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 15:12:00 GMT, Andrew Thompson <SeeMySites (AT) www (DOT) invalid> wrote or quoted : Quote: IE comes now with NO java. Many IE *had* Java but user removed it. Many IE had Java but *sys admin* removed it. Until you indicate you understand that I cannot advise further. You know what he means. I suspect you would no more likely help him get code working with the MS JVM than you would teach him how to shoot up heroin. It is a sort of treason to aid in that endeavor. -- Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green. Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming. See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary. Back to top Roedy Green Guest Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 6:02 pm    Post subject: Re: still one Online Compiler +what compilation options? On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 17:17:02 GMT, Roedy Green <look-on (AT) mindprod (DOT) com.invalid> wrote or quoted : Quote: Until you indicate you understand that I cannot advise further. You know what he means. I suspect you would no more likely help him get code working with the MS JVM than you would teach him how to shoot up heroin. It is a sort of treason to aid in that endeavor. The intent of MS Java JVM was to destroy Java by supporting only parts of Java and doing the support they did in non-standard ways, in violation of their contract. If failed to kill Java that way, but it succeeded as a decoy, making people think they had Java when they did not. The courts ruled that MS Java is not Java. This gave Java Applets a bad name, and Applets have been all but been abandoned from MS treachery. It is therefore long past time we should treat the JVM as the trojan horse it really is, and refuse to accommodate it. The argument you can give your boss are that MS no longer ships it and no longer allows you to get a copy. It is DEAD. I tell you this parrot is dead. To put this turkey to rest, perhaps some philanthropist could sue someone for using it. -- Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green. Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming. See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary. Back to top Andrew Thompson Guest Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 6:02 pm    Post subject: Re: still one Online Compiler +what compilation options? On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 17:17:02 GMT, Roedy Green wrote: Quote: You know what he means. No I do not Roedy. I suspect* I know what he means, but I have been over this whole thing too many times in the past 72hrs without checking prior to doing it yet again. Quote: ..I suspect you would no more likely help him get code working with the MS JVM than you would teach him how to shoot up heroin. Wrong. There *are* good reasons to develop code that will work on the MSVM. The JavaVersionApplet and JTest are just two applets I have written which would not be very effective unless they worked on the MSVM. [ And if you intend to shoot up heroin (which is a very stupid thing that I *don't* recommend), I would suggest you use a sharp, clean needle that you remove from the sterile wrapper yourself. ] Quote: It is a sort of treason to aid in that endeavor. Probably, but if the OP convinced me they had actual, rather than *perceived, need to code for the MSVM, I would probably offer whatever assistance I could. * A lot of people are stuck in old ways and see '1.1' as the 'runs everywhere' solution. It is not that anymore, if it ever was. -- Andrew Thompson http://www.PhySci.org/ Open-source software suite http://www.PhySci.org/codes/ Web & IT Help http://www.1point1C.org/ Science & Technology Back to top Andrew Thompson Guest Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 6:08 pm    Post subject: Re: still one Online Compiler +what compilation options? On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 18:02:27 GMT, Roedy Green wrote: Quote: The argument you can give your boss are that MS no longer ships it and no longer allows you to get a copy. Now that I can work with. ...'dunno about the OP. ;-) -- Andrew Thompson http://www.PhySci.org/ Open-source software suite http://www.PhySci.org/codes/ Web & IT Help http://www.1point1C.org/ Science & Technology Back to top thufir.hawat@mail.com Guest Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 8:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Online Compiler questions (http://javaboutique.internet. On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Roedy Green wrote: [..] Quote: I think they are just feeding your files to one of two of Sun's or IBM's compilers. Nearly always it would be better to download the JDK or Jikes and compile it yourself. See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jdk.html http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jikes.html The service would let you create java on a machine that had no Java compiler, that was too small to support one, or at Microsoft where the boss may not allow you to install Java. or you might not even have a computer to run the jdk on. in a sense this goes to bandwith v cpu power, definitely a java issue. the conventional wisdom, true in my case, is that most computers are total overkill. all anyone *really* needs is an internet connection; since I pay my ISP for that service, I might as well throw in a few bucks for some storage space and access to their server to compile my java programs remotely. never mind the cost of a bit of bandwith, the real shame is the untapped cpu power on millions of desktops. where i work there are hundreds of modern dell computers running windows that never do anything but telnet/ssh, it's a shame. i'd like to see a shift from that mindset of "download your own version" to using a service over the net. if I were king for a day, we'd all be on dumb GUI laptops with 802.11b/g. uh, one OS to rule them all: linux. wasn't sun going to come out with all these "java computers" years ago, internet appliances? 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