AppletTalk.com Java discussions newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  [NETBEANS] [EVALUATION] - E13 - "SPL + BCL = Open Source"          AppletTalk.com Forum Index -> Java Software Tools View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Ilias Lazaridis Guest Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 4:31 pm    Post subject: [NETBEANS] [EVALUATION] - E13 - "SPL + BCL = Open Source" *Simplification* "The NetBeans Open Source Lie" [1] reduced to a convenient equation. - SPL + BCL = Open Source. - *Open-Source* [definition: OSI compliant license] [definition: http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition.php] * SPL: is OSI compliant * BCL: is *not* OSI compliant => "SPL + BCL = Open Source" => *False* "The NetBeans Open Source Lie" => *Valid* - *Open-Source* [definition: as the words imply, viewable/accessible source code] [definition: the _right_ to view source code] * SPL: grants the _right_ to view source code [and more rights] * BCL: does *not* grant the *right* to view source code [even a limited one]. => "SPL + BCL = Open Source" => *False* "The NetBeans Open Source Lie" => *Valid* - Some people would not resist to insist (as an escape path from the accusation) the literal meaning of "Open Source". But as you see, even if NetBeans / Sun Microsystems feel not _ashamed_ to do so: "The NetBeans Open Source Lie" remains existent. - NetBeans and Sun Microsystems lie publically about the licensing status of the NetBeans IDE. Is there *anyone* in this fictive-extraordinary company who has the courage to admit the false usage of the terms "Open Source"? Thus Sun/NetBeans can start to take the necessary steps to overcome this? I've already given two suggestion: [see at the end of this message] http://www.netbeans.org/servlets/ReadMsg?msgId=871828&listName=nbusers - [1] [NETBEANS] [EVALUATION] - E12 - The NetBeans Open Source Lie http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.java.softwaretools/browse_frm/thread/452ff4de33491a34/633f0a55e520ef24 .. -- http://lazaridis.com Back to top Ilias Lazaridis Guest Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 5:57 pm    Post subject: Re: [NETBEANS] [EVALUATION] - E13 - "SPL + BCL = Open Source Noel wrote: Quote: On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 18:31:58 +0200, Ilias Lazaridis [email]ilias (AT) lazaridis (DOT) com[/email]> wrote: "The NetBeans Open Source Lie" [1] reduced to a convenient equation. Yawn. Thank you for your confirmation. .. -- http://lazaridis.com Back to top Ilias Lazaridis Guest Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 5:07 am    Post subject: Re: [NETBEANS] [EVALUATION] - E13 - "SPL + BCL = Open Source Ilias Lazaridis wrote: [...] Quote: *Open-Source* [definition: as the words imply, viewable/accessible source code] [definition: the _right_ to view source code] * SPL: grants the _right_ to view source code [and more rights] * BCL: does *not* grant the *right* to view source code [even a limited one]. => "SPL + BCL = Open Source" => *False* "The NetBeans Open Source Lie" => *Valid* [...] Important to realize: NetBeans is _not_ open-source, even if "Open Source" is taken literally. Because BCL does not grant the right to _view_ the source-codes of e.g. XML and J2EE editor stuff. Quote: [see at the end of this message] http://www.netbeans.org/servlets/ReadMsg?msgId=871828&listName=nbusers [...] .. -- http://lazaridis.com Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         AppletTalk.com Forum Index -> Java Software Tools All times are GMT Page 1 of 1   Jump to: Select a forum Java Newsgroups----------------Java DiscussionsWeb-based java games comp.lang.java 3D Graphics API's for Java Java: Support and criticism Java System Announcements comp.lang.java.api JavaBeans Java and CORBA Java and Databases comp.lang.java.developer Java GUI Toolkits Java Help comp.lang.java.javascript JVM, native methods and hardware comp.lang.java.misc Java Language Programming Security and Java comp.lang.java.setup Java Software Tools comp.lang.java.tech ibm.software.java.linux  Non-English Java Newsgroups----------------Java Language (German)Language Java (Français)Java (Italian)  You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2006 phpBB Group SEO toolkit © 2004-2006 webmedic.