AppletTalk.com Java discussions newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Java slow?          AppletTalk.com Forum Index -> JVM, native methods and hardware View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Master Programmer Guest Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 8:11 am    Post subject: Java slow? Hi I was thinking about learning the Java programing language. I asked a friend his views and he told me not to bother - as Java is a slow piece of shit ! Is that true, is it really a goofy outdated language that doesnt run quickly like other languages? (from the horses month). Thanks Back to top Chris Uppal Guest Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 7:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Java slow? Master Programmer wrote: Quote: I was thinking about learning the Java programing language. I asked a friend his views and he told me not to bother - as Java is a slow piece of shit ! Is that true, is it really a goofy outdated language that doesnt run quickly like other languages? (from the horses month). Either you are a Troll -- in which case you need to find a better way to pass your time. Or you are not -- in winch case you need to find a better friend. -- chris Back to top Steve W. Jackson Guest Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 3:40 am    Post subject: Re: Java slow? In article <455328ee$0$627$bed64819 (AT) news (DOT) gradwell.net>, "Chris Uppal" <chris.uppal (AT) metagnostic (DOT) REMOVE-THIS.org> wrote: Quote: Master Programmer wrote: I was thinking about learning the Java programing language. I asked a friend his views and he told me not to bother - as Java is a slow piece of shit ! Is that true, is it really a goofy outdated language that doesnt run quickly like other languages? (from the horses month). Either you are a Troll -- in which case you need to find a better way to pass your time. Or you are not -- in winch case you need to find a better friend. -- chris With a name like "Master Programmer"...my vote is troll. -- Steve W. Jackson Montgomery, Alabama Back to top A Man Crying Alone In The Guest Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 5:56 am    Post subject: Re: Java slow? Master Programmer wrote: Quote: Hi I was thinking about learning the Java programing language. I asked a friend his views and he told me not to bother - as Java is a slow piece of shit ! Is that true, is it really a goofy outdated language that doesnt run quickly like other languages? (from the horses month). Thanks Astounding! /I was thinking/ Indead! How are you at learning? There is only one language AFAIK that is more mathematically pure than Java? Can you name that language? Or, Is this really the question you need answered? The problem is rooted within the massive propoganda from companies similar as <SNIP> that popularize a misconception that register based architectures are faster than a stack ( of registers). Maybe or maybe not, the answer you seek is ... Hmm, I'm not sure. Back to top anonymous Guest Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 5:59 am    Post subject: Re: Java slow? A Man Crying Alone In The Wilderness wrote: Quote: Master Programmer wrote: Hi I was thinking about learning the Java programing language. I asked a friend his views and he told me not to bother - as Java is a slow piece of shit ! Is that true, is it really a goofy outdated language that doesnt run quickly like other languages? (from the horses month). Thanks Astounding! /I was thinking/ Indead! How are you at learning? There is only one language AFAIK that is more mathematically pure than Java? Can you name that language? Or, Is this really the question you need answered? ( THE BS GOES ON AND ON AND ON AND ON ,,, LEARN TO PROGRAM BY PROGRAMMING, EXPERIENCE GAINS KNOWLEDGE, IT REALLY DOESN"T MATTER WHAT LANGUAGE YOU CARE FOR, PREFIX, INFIX OR POSTFIX, WHAT YOU MAY NEED IS 'HOW MANY PAGES OF CODE CAN I SHOW FOR MYSELF?' ONE HUNDRED, TWO HUNDRED, FIVE HUNDRED PAGES OF NEW CODE PER MONTH, ... TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PAGES OF CODE, BY THEN YOU WILL KNOW! OR, WILL YOU SIMPLY BELIEVE ME? VLIW SMP MPP FORTH IS 'THE WAY' OF ANY DIRECTION OF DIMENSION OF TRUTH, FOR MOST PROBLEMS, in theory, REGARDS MAW) Quote: The problem is rooted within the massive propoganda from companies similar as <SNIP> that popularize a misconception that register based architectures are faster than a stack ( of registers). Maybe or maybe not, the answer you seek is ... Hmm, I'm not sure. Back to top Roedy Green Guest Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 8:11 am    Post subject: Re: Java slow? On 8 Nov 2006 23:59:23 -0800, "Master Programmer" <master_programmer (AT) outgun (DOT) com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said : Quote: I was thinking about learning the Java programing language. I asked a friend his views and he told me not to bother - as Java is a slow piece of shit ! Is that true, is it really a goofy outdated language that doesnt run quickly like other languages? (from the horses month). For crying out sideways. You still recycling those old trolls. see http://mindprod.com/jgloss/benchmark.html You will see that Java with native compilers and hotspot now can beat C++ -- Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green, http://mindprod.com Priorities: Prevent global climate destabilisation. End both wars. Prepare for oil shortages. Back to top Master Programmer Guest Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 3:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Java slow? I decided against Java, I think my friend was right. I downloaded this applet that showed reflecting water, christ it was soooo slow to run. That clinched it for me, it was obviously the fact that it was a java (applet) - written in java - running on java. SLOW SLOW SLOW. Anyway I have taken my friend advice, he suggested that I learn a more modern language, one that runs faster. Thanks for all the comments anyway. The Grand Master Roedy Green wrote: Quote: On 8 Nov 2006 23:59:23 -0800, "Master Programmer" master_programmer (AT) outgun (DOT) com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said : I was thinking about learning the Java programing language. I asked a friend his views and he told me not to bother - as Java is a slow piece of shit ! Is that true, is it really a goofy outdated language that doesnt run quickly like other languages? (from the horses month). For crying out sideways. You still recycling those old trolls. see http://mindprod.com/jgloss/benchmark.html You will see that Java with native compilers and hotspot now can beat C++ -- Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green, http://mindprod.com Priorities: Prevent global climate destabilisation. End both wars. Prepare for oil shortages. Back to top Master Programmer Guest Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 3:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Java slow? I decided on Visual Basic in the end. It seems to be a lot more powerfull. It even lets you draw out the buttons and text boxes using a graphical interface, instead of all that old fashioned hand coding swing shit. The Grand Master Roedy Green wrote: Quote: On 8 Nov 2006 23:59:23 -0800, "Master Programmer" master_programmer (AT) outgun (DOT) com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said : I was thinking about learning the Java programing language. I asked a friend his views and he told me not to bother - as Java is a slow piece of shit ! Is that true, is it really a goofy outdated language that doesnt run quickly like other languages? (from the horses month). For crying out sideways. You still recycling those old trolls. see http://mindprod.com/jgloss/benchmark.html You will see that Java with native compilers and hotspot now can beat C++ -- Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green, http://mindprod.com Priorities: Prevent global climate destabilisation. End both wars. Prepare for oil shortages. Back to top glen herrmannsfeldt Guest Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 8:11 am    Post subject: Re: Java slow? Master Programmer wrote: (snip) Quote: Anyway I have taken my friend advice, he suggested that I learn a more modern language, one that runs faster. Thanks for all the comments anyway. If you want a modern fast language, you probably want Fortran 2003. So modern that the compilers haven't been written yet. Java is plenty fast enough, depending a lot on what you want to do with it. -- glen Back to top Boudewijn Dijkstra Guest Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:32 am    Post subject: Re: Java slow? Op Thu, 16 Nov 2006 10:18:50 +0100 schreef Master Programmer <master_programmer (AT) outgun (DOT) com>: Quote: I decided against Java, I think my friend was right. I downloaded this applet that showed reflecting water, christ it was soooo slow to run. That clinched it for me, it was obviously the fact that it was a java (applet) - written in java - running on java. SLOW SLOW SLOW. Troll. One slow applet (that probably doesn't use hardware accelleration) doesn't mean the language is slow. Perhaps it was using one of M$' crappy VM's? -- Gemaakt met Opera's revolutionaire e-mailprogramma: http://www.opera.com/mail/ Back to top Master Programmer Guest Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 3:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Java slow? I recon all languages will dissapear completely over the next five years and everyone will use MS technologies. Dont put all of your broken java eggs in one holed basket. The Grand Master Boudewijn Dijkstra wrote: Quote: Op Thu, 16 Nov 2006 10:18:50 +0100 schreef Master Programmer master_programmer (AT) outgun (DOT) com>: I decided against Java, I think my friend was right. I downloaded this applet that showed reflecting water, christ it was soooo slow to run. That clinched it for me, it was obviously the fact that it was a java (applet) - written in java - running on java. SLOW SLOW SLOW. Troll. One slow applet (that probably doesn't use hardware accelleration) doesn't mean the language is slow. 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