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al.whitener@earthlink.net
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 3:36 am    Post subject: Best Java Textbook Reply with quote



What's the best book for a beginner to start learning Java with?

TIA
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Michael Dunn
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 3:54 am    Post subject: Re: Best Java Textbook Reply with quote




<al.whitener (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote

: What's the best book for a beginner to start learning Java with?
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: TIA


"Head First Java" is a good book to have in your library.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0596004656/qid=1076644205/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-1344635-8031046?v=glance&s=books


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Erwin Moller
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 10:30 am    Post subject: Re: Best Java Textbook Reply with quote



[email]al.whitener (AT) earthlink (DOT) net[/email] wrote:

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What's the best book for a beginner to start learning Java with?

TIA

I liked 'core java' by Hostmann and Cornell a lot.
Very good for beginners with some programming background, but relatively new
to OOP.

One advise on Java: If you are learning it and don't get a certain subject
completely, don't skip it, but reread it again.
Be sure to do a lot of hands-on pratice during study too.

When I first studied Java I made the mistake to jump to advanched subject
too soon, resulting in complete confusion, which in turn resulted in doing
it all again. Razz
That is a waste of time.

Good luck!

Regards,
Erwin Moller

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TechBookReport
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 11:25 am    Post subject: Re: Best Java Textbook Reply with quote

<al.whitener (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote

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What's the best book for a beginner to start learning Java with?

TIA

The firm favourites seem to be:

Java: How To Program
Head First Java
Thinking In Java (though not recommended for the beginning programmer, good
if you're switching to Java from something else).

All of these are reviewed at TechBookReport
(http://www.techbookreport.com/JavaIndex.html)

HTH



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darren_uk
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 11:24 pm    Post subject: What about "Teach yourself Java2 in 21 days"? (Re: Best Java Reply with quote

[email]al.whitener (AT) earthlink (DOT) net[/email] wrote:

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What's the best book for a beginner to start learning Java with?

TIA


Could I ask for people's advice on my choice of book:

(my background is 15 years Unix with shell scripting, and a little
understanding of OO from reading beginner's books on C++ and Java)

I'm using Rogers Cadenhead & Laura Lemay's "Sams Teach Yourself Java2 in 21
days" 3rd edition - which is copyright 2003 and covers SDK1.4 so I figured
it is reasonably up to date.


What about the online tutorials (eg Sun's own)?


Many thanks for your replu.

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Jon A. Cruz
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2004 6:15 am    Post subject: Re: What about "Teach yourself Java2 in 21 days"? (Re: Best Reply with quote

darren_uk wrote:
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(my background is 15 years Unix with shell scripting, and a little
understanding of OO from reading beginner's books on C++ and Java)

I'm using Rogers Cadenhead & Laura Lemay's "Sams Teach Yourself Java2 in 21
days" 3rd edition - which is copyright 2003 and covers SDK1.4 so I figured
it is reasonably up to date.


What about the online tutorials (eg Sun's own)?

Work with Sun's and also with "Thinking in Java".

(I too started with 21 days myself waaaay back. Think it was the 1st
edition) :-)


Chances are the trails in the Tutorial will help you address issues,
learn points, etc. while TiJ will help cover OO, approach via Java, etc.


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Andrew Thompson
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 12:04 pm    Post subject: Re: What about "Teach yourself Java2 in 21 days"? (Re: Best Reply with quote

darren_uk wrote:
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al.whitener (AT) earthlink (DOT) net wrote:

What's the best book for a beginner to start learning Java with?
...
Could I ask for people's advice on my choice of book:

(my background is 15 years Unix with shell scripting, and a little
understanding of OO from reading beginner's books on C++ and Java)

I came to Java from a background of
Cobol, Pascal, and a smidgeon of
Basic & Fortran.

My first 'Java' program had all
the Java keywords, compiled and
ran under a JVM, but was _written_
in _Cobol_ (Cobava?)..

It actually read (and ran) like a
Cobol program.

My comment would be, ensure
you understand the OO side of Java,
or you may not get the benefits.

I doubt that a 'teach yourself in 21 days'
book would cover much of that.

--
Andrew Thompson
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* http://www.PhySci.org/codes/ Web & IT Help
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darren_uk
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 12:55 am    Post subject: Re: What about "Teach yourself Java2 in 21 days"? (Re: Best Reply with quote

Andrew Thompson wrote:
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My comment would be, ensure
you understand the OO side of Java,
or you may not get the benefits.

I doubt that a 'teach yourself in 21 days'
book would cover much of that.


It's actually not too bad. "Day 1" is devoted to O0. Granted it's only 23
pages long though.

Also, as I've since discovered since my original post, BlueJ is great for
teaching the OO paradigm because it shows the classes and "extends" and
"uses" graphically.

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Sonja
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 1:21 am    Post subject: Re: What about "Teach yourself Java2 in 21 days"? (Re: Best Reply with quote

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 00:55:33 +0000, darren_uk <none (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>
wrote:
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Also, as I've since discovered since my original post, BlueJ is great for
teaching the OO paradigm because it shows the classes and "extends" and
"uses" graphically.

In my first Java class we used BlueJ. It helped immensely. It was
hard to make the jump to using javac for compiling, java for
executing, and packages. Most of the students in the class just learn
what they are spoon fed. To get to the next level of Java one must go
beyond what can be taught in the classroom.

Sonja

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david
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 1:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Best Java Textbook Reply with quote

"TechBookReport" <tbr (AT) nospam (DOT) spam> wrote

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al.whitener (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:1DXWb.3303$W74.1574 (AT) newsread1 (DOT) news.atl.earthlink.net...
What's the best book for a beginner to start learning Java with?

TIA

The firm favourites seem to be:

Java: How To Program
Head First Java
Thinking In Java (though not recommended for the beginning programmer, good
if you're switching to Java from something else).

All of these are reviewed at TechBookReport
(http://www.techbookreport.com/JavaIndex.html)

HTH

i also found using the online API docs, as well as javaranch.com is
good. TIJ is a good book, but i have also found getting a hard copy of
the Java Developer's Almanac useful. has lots of examples for you to
play with. Some of the Sun Certifcation books made by new riders or
Coriolis are good. i found one on discount at borders for like 2
bucks. it may not be up to date, but still useful. and write LOTS of
code. not just copy and paste. MODIFY. WRITE FROM SCRATCH.. and use
google groups too. dont be afraid to ask questions.. even the ones
that sometime irritate people on newsgroups. this is the best way to
learn java.. dont just limit yourself to one book, use every available
resource. Best of luck to you -- David

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