AppletTalk.com Java discussions newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Java sucks, Perl Rules. Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3 ... , 60, 61, 62  Next          AppletTalk.com Forum Index -> Java: Support and criticism View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Guest Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:10 am    Post subject: Re: Chicken Little BD-Java Review On Apr 5, 8:48 am, "Joshua Zyber" <joshzy...@comcast.net> wrote: Quote: *Most* PS3 owners are only interested in video games and have no intention of buying either High Definition movie format. Many seem interested in RENTING blu-ray discs though, which is similar to the case of any media, where the vast majority of consumers rent instead of buy. All the PS3 owners I know have picks in BB and Netflix (not saying that they're getting them quickly though, as the lines are long and the supply seemingly not very high)... Back to top Guest Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 4:47 am    Post subject: Dragon's Lair BD-Java Review http://www.blueboard.com/bluray/movie_review_dragonslair.htm The Blu-ray BD-J version of Dragon's Lair cannot really be said to be a ground-breaking showcase for BD-Java, as it has rather static menus and interactive features (like the PIP commentary track) that are somewhat, well, non-interactive. Nonetheless, it is a visually stunning title with a unique game play that might frustrate newcomers to the game, but which will undoubtedly bring back fond memories to nostalgic old-timers. Back to top Derek Janssen Guest Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 4:58 am    Post subject: Re: Dragon's Lair BD-Java Review asjbiotek (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote: Quote: http://www.blueboard.com/bluray/movie_review_dragonslair.htm The Blu-ray BD-J version of Dragon's Lair cannot really be said to be a ground-breaking showcase for BD-Java, as it has rather static menus and interactive features (like the PIP commentary track) that are somewhat, well, non-interactive. WOO-HOO!...The BD-Java sucks! That's awesome news for Sony, dude! @_@ (No, really, we're asking now: -DO- you ever read these articles before posting them? You just have to answer once; yes or no, it's not a complicated question.) Derek Janssen (just think carefully and take your time before answering) ejanss (AT) comcast (DOT) net Back to top Guest Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 5:30 am    Post subject: Re: Dragon's Lair BD-Java Review On Apr 7, 7:58 pm, Derek Janssen <eja...@comcast.net> wrote: Quote: asjbio...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.blueboard.com/bluray/movie_review_dragonslair.htm WOO-HOO!...The BD-Java sucks! That's awesome news for Sony, dude! @_@ (No, really, we're asking now: -DO- you ever read these articles before posting them? You just have to answer once; yes or no, it's not a complicated question.) Derek Janssen (just think carefully and take your time before answering) eja...@comcast.net Considering that I wrote the review, yes, i would venture to say that I had read it before posting Back to top Derek Janssen Guest Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 6:20 am    Post subject: Re: Dragon's Lair BD-Java Review asjbiotek (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote: Quote: On Apr 7, 7:58 pm, Derek Janssen <eja...@comcast.net> wrote: asjbio...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.blueboard.com/bluray/movie_review_dragonslair.htm WOO-HOO!...The BD-Java sucks! That's awesome news for Sony, dude! @_@ (No, really, we're asking now: -DO- you ever read these articles before posting them? You just have to answer once; yes or no, it's not a complicated question.) Derek Janssen (just think carefully and take your time before answering) eja...@comcast.net Considering that I wrote the review, yes, i would venture to say that I had read it before posting Let's see: <reads> "Growing up in the Philippines"...Uh-hahhhh. OOOO-kay. THAT would explain a lot. 9_9 (WHY do we always get the k00ks from overseas?.. Can't we get some annoying, unstoppable crossposting k00ks from our *own* country?--Is it some import restriction, or something?) Derek Janssen (well, at least it wasn't Singapore or Netherlands, again) ejanss (AT) comcast (DOT) net ejans Back to top Guest Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 6:36 am    Post subject: Re: Dragon's Lair BD-Java Review On Apr 7, 9:20 pm, Derek Janssen <eja...@comcast.net> wrote: Quote: asjbio...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 7, 7:58 pm, Derek Janssen <eja...@comcast.net> wrote: asjbio...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.blueboard.com/bluray/movie_review_dragonslair.htm WOO-HOO!...The BD-Java sucks! That's awesome news for Sony, dude! @_@ (No, really, we're asking now: -DO- you ever read these articles before posting them? You just have to answer once; yes or no, it's not a complicated question.) Derek Janssen (just think carefully and take your time before answering) eja...@comcast.net Considering that I wrote the review, yes, i would venture to say that I had read it before posting ;-) Let's see: reads "Growing up in the Philippines"...Uh-hahhhh. OOOO-kay. THAT would explain a lot. 9_9 (WHY do we always get the k00ks from overseas?.. Can't we get some annoying, unstoppable crossposting k00ks from our *own* country?--Is it some import restriction, or something?) Derek Janssen (well, at least it wasn't Singapore or Netherlands, again) eja...@comcast.net ejans hehehe...actually i was born in NJ, I just grew up in that country, and i am posting from the US. Back to top El Bukkake Dottore Origin Guest Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 12:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Dragon's Lair BD-Java Review Derek Janssen wrote: Quote: asjbiotek (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote: On Apr 7, 7:58 pm, Derek Janssen <eja...@comcast.net> wrote: asjbio...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.blueboard.com/bluray/movie_review_dragonslair.htm WOO-HOO!...The BD-Java sucks! That's awesome news for Sony, dude! @_@ (No, really, we're asking now: -DO- you ever read these articles before posting them? You just have to answer once; yes or no, it's not a complicated question.) Derek Janssen (just think carefully and take your time before answering) eja...@comcast.net Considering that I wrote the review, yes, i would venture to say that I had read it before posting ;-) Let's see: reads "Growing up in the Philippines"...Uh-hahhhh. OOOO-kay. THAT would explain a lot. 9_9 1 L0V3 73H PH1111PH1N35 !!!! 1 L0V3 411 7EH G1R15 10N9 71M3 C0Z M3 50 H0RNY !!!! Back to top Lew Guest Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 7:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Dragon's Lair BD-Java Review Derek Janssen <eja...@comcast.net> wrote: Quote: "Growing up in the Philippines"...Uh-hahhhh. OOOO-kay. THAT would explain a lot. 9_9 (WHY do we always get the k00ks from overseas?.. Can't we get some annoying, unstoppable crossposting k00ks from our *own* country?--Is it some import restriction, or something?) Derek Janssen (well, at least it wasn't Singapore or Netherlands, again) Well, that sure is a pantload of bigoted crap! asjbiotek (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote: Quote: hehehe...actually i was born in NJ, I just grew up in that country, and i am posting from the US. You tell that jingoistic mf, dude! -- Lew Back to top Guest Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 12:36 am    Post subject: Re: Dragon's Lair BD-Java Review On Apr 8, 10:24 am, Lew <l...@nospam.lewscanon.com> wrote: Quote: Derek Janssen <eja...@comcast.net> wrote: "Growing up in the Philippines"...Uh-hahhhh. OOOO-kay. THAT would explain a lot. 9_9 (WHY do we always get the k00ks from overseas?.. Can't we get some annoying, unstoppable crossposting k00ks from our *own* country?--Is it some import restriction, or something?) Derek Janssen (well, at least it wasn't Singapore or Netherlands, again) Well, that sure is a pantload of bigoted crap! asjbio...@gmail.com wrote: hehehe...actually i was born in NJ, I just grew up in that country, and i am posting from the US. You tell that jingoistic mf, dude! -- Lew thanks, but i think the guy was kidding, or at least I hope he was.... Back to top Derek Janssen Guest Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 12:51 am    Post subject: Re: Dragon's Lair BD-Java Review asjbiotek (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote: Quote: "Growing up in the Philippines"...Uh-hahhhh. OOOO-kay. THAT would explain a lot. 9_9 (WHY do we always get the k00ks from overseas?.. Can't we get some annoying, unstoppable crossposting k00ks from our *own* country?--Is it some import restriction, or something?) (well, at least it wasn't Singapore or Netherlands, again) Well, that sure is a pantload of bigoted crap! asjbio...@gmail.com wrote: hehehe...actually i was born in NJ, I just grew up in that country, and i am posting from the US. You tell that jingoistic mf, dude! thanks, but i think the guy was kidding, or at least I hope he was.... Yeah, just that around these a.v.d. parts we don't USUALLY get annoyingly starstruck, self-trademarking newbie idiots who never, ever go away no matter what blunt instrument we brain them over the head with, and/or who are utterly convinced that they're crossposting "celebrities" because everyone showed up for the tomato-pelting ("Hi, folks, it's lil ol' me, your favorite poster again!") who actually speak *English* and post from within the North American continent... (Well, Jersey, but still.) ....Aw, c'mon, sure you don't want to ask us where we can download "Casino Royale"?--It would just make things easier for our records. Derek Janssen (the discussion topic *does* seem to have gotten off of new BD-J developments, hasn't it?--Please take note, for future reference.) ejanss (AT) comcast (DOT) net Back to top GMAN Guest Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 10:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Dragon's Lair BD-Java Review In article <UvmdnVfVvtePZoXbnZ2dnUVZ_qLinZ2d (AT) comcast (DOT) com>, Lew <lew (AT) nospam (DOT) lewscanon.com> wrote: Quote: Derek Janssen <eja...@comcast.net> wrote: "Growing up in the Philippines"...Uh-hahhhh. OOOO-kay. THAT would explain a lot. 9_9 (WHY do we always get the k00ks from overseas?.. Can't we get some annoying, unstoppable crossposting k00ks from our *own* country?--Is it some import restriction, or something?) Derek Janssen (well, at least it wasn't Singapore or Netherlands, again) Well, that sure is a pantload of bigoted crap! asjbiotek (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote: hehehe...actually i was born in NJ, I just grew up in that country, and i am posting from the US. You tell that jingoistic mf, dude! Lew ser? JK ;p Back to top Tim Smith Guest Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:09 am    Post subject: Re: What a pity that Java not Include Operators overloading, In article <iujh3zah04zy.dlg (AT) kimmeringer (DOT) de>, Lothar Kimmeringer <news200709 (AT) kimmeringer (DOT) de> wrote: Quote: aObj + bObj does not equal String.valueOf(aObj) + String.valueOf(bObj). Only addition where one of either arguments is a String will do an implicit String.valueOf(...) conversion. If you try to e.g. do a String myValue = aObj + bObj you will get a compile-error, so when I was talking of "existing code (that) will break", I assumed constructs like String myValue = "" + aObj + bObj; This still might work with operator overloading (because the overloaded version of String would be used here), but you might get strange results if the line is something like String myValue = aObj + " values found"; where the overloaded +-operator of class AObj actually handles instances of String or even lead to exceptions when the String is casted to AObj. Constructs like this I see very often, not only as convienient way of System.out.println-ing a primitive type instead of using e.g. Integer.toString(myIntValue). This is easy to handle. Just require that when one of the arguments to "+" is a string, preference is given to converting the other argument to a string, and using the string concatenation "+". Alternatively, don't allow user-defined overloading to define "+" for a user-defined object and a string. Most of the benefit of user-defined overloading would still be gained if overloading were restricted to require one operand to be a user-defined class and the other to either be a user-defined class or a number type (either the built-in types, or their wrapper classes). -- --Tim Smith Back to top Lothar Kimmeringer Guest Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:49 pm    Post subject: Re: What a pity that Java not Include Operators overloading, Tim Smith wrote: Quote: In article <iujh3zah04zy.dlg (AT) kimmeringer (DOT) de>, String myValue = "" + aObj + bObj; This still might work with operator overloading (because the overloaded version of String would be used here), but you might get strange results if the line is something like String myValue = aObj + " values found"; where the overloaded +-operator of class AObj actually handles instances of String or even lead to exceptions when the String is casted to AObj. Constructs like this I see very often, not only as convienient way of System.out.println-ing a primitive type instead of using e.g. Integer.toString(myIntValue). This is easy to handle. Just require that when one of the arguments to "+" is a string, preference is given to converting the other argument to a string, and using the string concatenation "+". Bring that up in a standardization-commitee and people will look for your address to beat you up in person ;-) Quote: Alternatively, don't allow user-defined overloading to define "+" for a user-defined object and a string. That's a very restrictive way and will most likely enrage people that are developing dynamic languages that want to allow perl- like constructs like int a = myInt + myString where myString is converted to an int before being used as value for the addition. Quote: Most of the benefit of user-defined overloading would still be gained if overloading were restricted to require one operand to be a user-defined class and the other to either be a user-defined class or a number type (either the built-in types, or their wrapper classes). Define "user-defined"-class. And why should lists be excluded from the list of classes, e.g. myList + stringElement Regards, Lothar -- Lothar Kimmeringer E-Mail: spamfang (AT) kimmeringer (DOT) de PGP-encrypted mails preferred (Key-ID: 0x8BC3CD81) Always remember: The answer is forty-two, there can only be wrong questions! Back to top Tim Smith Guest Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 11:28 am    Post subject: Re: What a pity that Java not Include Operators overloading, In article <h4ycuwslw5fe$.dlg (AT) kimmeringer (DOT) de>, Lothar Kimmeringer <news200709 (AT) kimmeringer (DOT) de> wrote: Quote: Most of the benefit of user-defined overloading would still be gained if overloading were restricted to require one operand to be a user-defined class and the other to either be a user-defined class or a number type (either the built-in types, or their wrapper classes). Define "user-defined"-class. And why should lists be excluded from the list of classes, e.g. myList + stringElement What's the compelling case for performing list operations that way? The code isn't all that much simpler or clearer than myList.append( stringElement ); These kind of operations usually are used by themselves. Compare to classes that implement mathematical objects, such as large integers, matrices, polynomials, fields, vectors, and such. There, you often want to compute some complex formula involving the underlying mathematical elements represented by your classes. Without overloading, this usually leads to code that is very verbose, and is hard to understand, because it doesn't look anything remotely like the formula it is computing. Some people would like unrestricted overloading. Others do not want any overloading, fearing it will lead to horrible code. If overloading were supported, but with restrictions so that it only gets used on mathematical classes, that would be fine with me. -- --Tim Smith Back to top Lothar Kimmeringer Guest Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:19 pm    Post subject: Re: What a pity that Java not Include Operators overloading, Tim Smith wrote: Quote: In article <h4ycuwslw5fe$.dlg (AT) kimmeringer (DOT) de>, Lothar Kimmeringer <news200709 (AT) kimmeringer (DOT) de> wrote: Define "user-defined"-class. And why should lists be excluded from the list of classes, e.g. myList + stringElement What's the compelling case for performing list operations that way? I don't know but it's a common way you come around very often. Regards, Lothar -- Lothar Kimmeringer E-Mail: spamfang (AT) kimmeringer (DOT) de PGP-encrypted mails preferred (Key-ID: 0x8BC3CD81) Always remember: The answer is forty-two, there can only be wrong questions! 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