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Getting Discouraged -- Insights Please

 
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Noble
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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 7:11 am    Post subject: Getting Discouraged -- Insights Please Reply with quote



I have several hundred dollars in Java books and not to mention
several hours of time invested in learning the language.

I see allot of messages and text on the Internet about people not
wanting to use Java to write programs and that they do not like Java.

All I want to do is use Java to create crossplatform shareware desktop
applications. Am I wasting my time here?

Thanks in advance,
Noble
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Arne Vajhøj
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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 7:11 am    Post subject: Re: Getting Discouraged -- Insights Please Reply with quote



Noble wrote:
Quote:
I have several hundred dollars in Java books and not to mention
several hours of time invested in learning the language.

I see allot of messages and text on the Internet about people not
wanting to use Java to write programs and that they do not like Java.

All I want to do is use Java to create crossplatform shareware desktop
applications. Am I wasting my time here?

If you look at any job site, then you will see that Java
knowledge is highly in demand, so Java skills are not
wasted.

Whether your shareware desktop app will be a success or
not I do not know. I don't think shareware is popular these
days, but if the app is worth the money, then people will
buy it.

Arne
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Luc The Perverse
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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 7:11 am    Post subject: Re: Getting Discouraged -- Insights Please Reply with quote



"Noble" <NobleBell (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:1179027171.111838.181130 (AT) k79g2000hse (DOT) googlegroups.com...
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I have several hundred dollars in Java books and not to mention
several hours of time invested in learning the language.

I see allot of messages and text on the Internet about people not
wanting to use Java to write programs and that they do not like Java.

All I want to do is use Java to create crossplatform shareware desktop
applications. Am I wasting my time here?

Thanks in advance,
Noble


The vast majority of people who download software that they search for on
the internet don't know and don't care what language it is written in. On
the flip side, the majority of the same crowd are windows users ;)

There is a group of anti Java zealots passing on and complaing about
antiquated information. It is their right to carry on whatever warped
beliefs that they want. The truth is, that Java performance is good enough
for most any kind of application you could want. The overhead of
downloading the JVM is comparable to a .NET platform.

If you want to search for anti-microsoft, anti-mac, anti-java etc.
propeganda you will find a lot of it. Popular platforms are going to be
targetted the most. So many people use Java to program it is amazing!

Good luck getting through the next "several hours" of study without getting
discouraged further!

--
LTP

:)
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Eric Smith
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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 7:11 am    Post subject: Re: Getting Discouraged -- Insights Please Reply with quote

Noble <NobleBell (AT) gmail (DOT) com> writes:
Quote:
I see allot of messages and text on the Internet about people not
wanting to use Java to write programs and that they do not like Java.

You can find people that gripe about anything.

Quote:
All I want to do is use Java to create crossplatform shareware desktop
applications. Am I wasting my time here?

No. Unless you have unusual requirements it's fine for that.
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Mike Schilling
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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 7:11 am    Post subject: Re: Getting Discouraged -- Insights Please Reply with quote

"Noble" <NobleBell (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:1179027171.111838.181130 (AT) k79g2000hse (DOT) googlegroups.com...
Quote:
I have several hundred dollars in Java books and not to mention
several hours of time invested in learning the language.

I see allot of messages and text on the Internet about people not
wanting to use Java to write programs and that they do not like Java.


That's mostly politics. Lots of developers use Java successfully.

Quote:
All I want to do is use Java to create crossplatform shareware desktop
applications. Am I wasting my time here?

It depends on what your applications are for. Java is good at many things,
but it can't do everything. If other people are using Java to build similar
apps, you should be fine. On the other hand, if you're trying to build
(say) an application like "top" on Unix or the Task Manager on Windows,
you'll have a difficult time in Java, because it's not good at making the
sort of OS-specific calls needed to get the displayed information.

In general, anyone who says either that Java sucks or that there's no reason
to use any other language can be safely ignored.
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Andrew Thompson
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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 10:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Getting Discouraged -- Insights Please Reply with quote

Noble wrote:
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Where can I find that free book from Bruce?

It is generally made available as a PDF.
<http://www.google.com/search?as_epq=thinking+in+java&as_filetype=pdf>

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Andrew Thompson
http://www.athompson.info/andrew/

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http://www.javakb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/java-general/200705/1
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Noble
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 4:41 am    Post subject: Re: Getting Discouraged -- Insights Please Reply with quote

Thanks. I will take a look at it.
nb
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