AppletTalk.com Java discussions newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  ? Eval of Many IDE's, Srv Platforms          AppletTalk.com Forum Index -> Java Software Tools View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Robert Kattke Guest Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 11:35 am    Post subject: ? Eval of Many IDE's, Srv Platforms I need to get a crash course on the products and tools available. [ JBoss, IntelliJ, Websphere, NetBeans, etc., etc. ] Is Sun promoting a particular product or bundling its Downloads with an IDE? Can I have a number of these products installed on my machine and easily switch between them ? What problems may I run into, regarding (permanent) settings ? (Windows XP) Which use the standard Sun Java Class API's and which force you to use theirs? Any other products deserving mention ? New Tools ? Open Source or Commercial Any feedback, references and links are most welcome. TIA-R Back to top Robert G. Rittenhouse Guest Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 3:27 am    Post subject: Re: ? Eval of Many IDE's, Srv Platforms On 21 Jan 2004 03:35:43 -0800, [email]invinfo (AT) rcn (DOT) com[/email] (Robert Kattke) wrote: Quote: I need to get a crash course on the products and tools available. [ JBoss, IntelliJ, Websphere, NetBeans, etc., etc. ] Is Sun promoting a particular product or bundling its Downloads with an IDE? Yes, NetBeans (although you can get the SDK without). Quote: Can I have a number of these products installed on my machine and easily switch between them ? What problems may I run into, regarding (permanent) settings ? (Windows XP) Generally yes. Many are Java based, crossplatform and don't do anything permanent. Quote: Which use the standard Sun Java Class API's and which force you to use theirs? For what? Quote: Any other products deserving mention ? New Tools ? Open Source or Commercial Tons. Definitely Eclipse. For edu use also look at BlueJ and Jgrasp. Xemacs with JDE. What are you wanting to do with Java? -- Rob R. Back to top Jussi Jumppanen Guest Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 5:27 pm    Post subject: Re: ? Eval of Many IDE's, Srv Platforms Robert Kattke wrote: Quote: Any other products deserving mention ? New Tools ? Open Source or Commercial Any feedback, references and links are most welcome. TIA-R Zeus for Windows (Windows platform only, shareware) http://www.zeusedit.com/lookmain.html Jussi Jumppanen Author of: Zeus for Windows, Win32 (Brief, Emacs, etc) FTP Text Editor "The C/C++, Java, HTML, FTP, Python, PHP, Perl programmer's editor" Home Page: http://www.zeusedit.com Back to top shay Guest Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 10:53 pm    Post subject: Re: ? Eval of Many IDE's, Srv Platforms Quote: Any other products deserving mention ? New Tools ? Open Source or Commercial Oracle JDeveloper and Oracle Containers for J2EE http://otn.oracle.com/products/jdev http://otn.oracle.com/products/oc4j Back to top Tim Anderson Guest Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 10:34 pm    Post subject: Re: ? Eval of Many IDE's, Srv Platforms "Robert Kattke" <invinfo (AT) rcn (DOT) com> wrote Quote: I need to get a crash course on the products and tools available. [ JBoss, IntelliJ, Websphere, NetBeans, etc., etc. ] Any other products deserving mention ? New Tools ? Open Source or Commercial The two most popular Java IDEs are rumoured to be Eclipse and JBuilder. There are a couple of links to stats in my blogs: http://www.itwriting.com/blog/?postid=15 http://www.itwriting.com/blog/?postid=16 Tim Back to top Shane Mingins Guest Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 11:14 pm    Post subject: Re: ? Eval of Many IDE's, Srv Platforms "Tim Anderson" <timjand (AT) hotma_no_spam_il (DOT) com> wrote Quote: The two most popular Java IDEs are rumoured to be Eclipse and JBuilder. Just goes to show you should never listen to rumours ;-) The most intelligent Java IDE around -- http://www.intellij.com/idea/ Cheers Shane Back to top Georgy Pavlov Guest Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 8:05 am    Post subject: Re: ? Eval of Many IDE's, Srv Platforms IntelliJ IDEA is definetely a cooooooooooooooool IDE. But most of the features of the IDEA (at list for the 3.x versions) are implemented in version 2.1.2 of Eclipse IDE. Plus that you don't have to buy it. Not that IDEA is very expensive but it costs some money anyway. These two are my favourite IDEs in any way. I've never been quite a fan of JBuilder - too clumsy , too cluttered, too inflexible, too expensive. No points for Borland ) I don't believe in Sun's surveys which claim it is IDE #1. Once I could point as plus for JBuilder the GUI design capabilities. But now it is much more easier for me to handle GUIs in Eclipse with some of the free plugins out there. Besides SWT gives much more pleasent end-user experience. It surely has to go its way but it started pretty well. And after all the user doesn't care how easy it si to implement something . He/she needs a nice and well performing user interface. The latter is hard for AWT/Swing. Cheers : Georgi "Shane Mingins" <shanemingins (AT) yahoo (DOT) com.clothes> wrote Quote: "Tim Anderson" <timjand (AT) hotma_no_spam_il (DOT) com> wrote in message news:bvmjkq$4cm$1 (AT) thorium (DOT) cix.co.uk... The two most popular Java IDEs are rumoured to be Eclipse and JBuilder. Just goes to show you should never listen to rumours ;-) The most intelligent Java IDE around -- http://www.intellij.com/idea/ Cheers Shane Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         AppletTalk.com Forum Index -> Java Software Tools All times are GMT Page 1 of 1   Jump to: Select a forum Java Newsgroups----------------Java DiscussionsWeb-based java games comp.lang.java 3D Graphics API's for Java Java: Support and criticism Java System Announcements comp.lang.java.api JavaBeans Java and CORBA Java and Databases comp.lang.java.developer Java GUI Toolkits Java Help comp.lang.java.javascript JVM, native methods and hardware comp.lang.java.misc Java Language Programming Security and Java comp.lang.java.setup Java Software Tools comp.lang.java.tech ibm.software.java.linux  Non-English Java Newsgroups----------------Java Language (German)Language Java (Français)Java (Italian)  You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2006 phpBB Group SEO toolkit © 2004-2006 webmedic.